Wieder andere möchten da das Gegenteil behaupten...Verblendete Ahnungslose, oder seriöse Cameron Kritiker mit Zugeständniss offensichtlicher Tatsachen? 8-)freeman hat geschrieben:Örks? What? Also ein Oben, Ice Age 3 und was weiß ich net ... sogar Bloody Valentine waren auf GENAU dem Level ... VOR Cameron ;-) ... zumal in Camerons Film einige Momente drin sind, wo "sein" 3D schon schwer flächig wirkt!Cameron hat das auf ein neues Level gehoben
James Cameron's AVATAR
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Speziell beim Valentinstag waren doch die meisten 3D-Effekte nur von der platten "hauptsache aufs Publikum zu"-Art. Bist schon fast wie der John hier - mit Deinem "Dagegen!"-Schildchen und so...freeman hat geschrieben:Örks? What? Also ein Oben, Ice Age 3 und was weiß ich net ... sogar Bloody Valentine waren auf GENAU dem Level ... VOR Cameron ;-) ... zumal in Camerons Film einige Momente drin sind, wo "sein" 3D schon schwer flächig wirkt!Cameron hat das auf ein neues Level gehoben
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Naja, bis auf 2 (maximal 3) Leute hier, sind "wir Freaks" mit dem Film ja auch "ziemlich zufrieden".Taran-tino hat geschrieben:Ich war gestern das 2. mal drinne, Kino war recht voll und ALLE waren durch die Bank begeistert. Egal was wir Freaks im Forum alles an negativen finden, der Masse gefällt es und somit hat Cameron imo ALLES richtig gemacht!
Jo, die WERBUNG hat alles richtig gemacht. Cameron hat ja net mal ne gescheite Story gefunden ... und das steht ja eigentlich VOR den Dreharbeiten
@ Stefan: naja, bei Bloody wars ja wie bei Final Destination 4 Teil des Konzepts. Voll scary und so. Allerdings entkräftet es meine Aussage net wirklich, da beide Filme auch in dezenteren Momenten mit genau dergleichen Bildqualität und Räumlichkeit glänzten. Man muss Cameron net zu einem Innovator machen, wo er es net ist ... Mir wird in den Medien schon genug so getan, als hätte er 3D erfunden ...
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@ Stefan: naja, bei Bloody wars ja wie bei Final Destination 4 Teil des Konzepts. Voll scary und so. Allerdings entkräftet es meine Aussage net wirklich, da beide Filme auch in dezenteren Momenten mit genau dergleichen Bildqualität und Räumlichkeit glänzten. Man muss Cameron net zu einem Innovator machen, wo er es net ist ... Mir wird in den Medien schon genug so getan, als hätte er 3D erfunden ...
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Avatar Becomes the #2 Film of All Time!
Source:erc BoxOffice, January 7, 2010
James Cameron's Avatar became the second-highest grossing film worldwide of all time on Wednesday, its 20th day in theaters.
Domestically, the blockbuster added $6.91 million to push its total to $374.4 million. The film has climbed to the 12th spot on the all-time domestic list, surpassing Spider-Man 2 ($373.6 million).
Internationally, Avatar has earned $760.9 million.
The combined worldwide total stands at $1,135,383,229, which surpasses The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King's $1,119,110,941. The movie now only trails Cameron's own #1 global blockbuster Titanic, which earned $1,842,879,955.
Source:erc BoxOffice, January 7, 2010
James Cameron's Avatar became the second-highest grossing film worldwide of all time on Wednesday, its 20th day in theaters.
Domestically, the blockbuster added $6.91 million to push its total to $374.4 million. The film has climbed to the 12th spot on the all-time domestic list, surpassing Spider-Man 2 ($373.6 million).
Internationally, Avatar has earned $760.9 million.
The combined worldwide total stands at $1,135,383,229, which surpasses The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King's $1,119,110,941. The movie now only trails Cameron's own #1 global blockbuster Titanic, which earned $1,842,879,955.
Naja es läuft ja nicht nur in 3D. Bei uns im Cinestar gibts täglich 2 3D Vorstellungen aber deutlich mehr 2D Vorstellungen. Weltweit wirds nicht anders aussehen, von daher kann man vielleicht 10-20 % abziehen und hat immer noch ein amtliches Einspiel vorliegen.
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The Avatar Effect in 2010
January 9, 2010 · heyuguys.co.uk
Avatar has just a become the second highest grossing movie of all time. It’s inevitable it will break Titanic’s record, becoming the highest grossing movie of all time, and will have done so in an astonishingly short period. James Cameron’s movie has united almost the entire industry in praise, with scores of positive reviews. Historically, the big movies have had some kind of impact on the industry, and as one of the biggest, we can expect the ‘Avatar Effect’ to have a huge influence. But just what will that influence be?
3D
This will probably be the most immediate influence, as movies already in production can be converted to 3D. There have already been rumours of Robin Hood, Clash of the Titans and the Robocop reboot possibly going 3D, and with demand now being expected from the public for more, we can expect many such announcements. Previously much maligned, 3D is now being seen as the way forward, and that is thanks to the great work Cameron and his team have done with the technology.
Motion Capture
Poor Robert Zemeckis. He’s been trying to convince us that motion capture animation is the way forward for several years, but despite his best efforts we weren’t buying it. There was much criticism over ‘dead eyes’ in the characters, and the overall effect of the movies were uninspiring. Now in one fell swoop Avatar has made motion capture viable. The alien characters were truly stunning, full of life and completely believable. The locations in some cases were photorealistic, and the overall effect was breathtaking. Thanks to Cameron’s success with the Nav’vi, we can expect many more motion capture projects to be announced.
Big Bugets
Despite the current economic climate making studios reluctant to greenlight risky big budget productions, the success of Avatar and others like Transformers 2 last year has lent credence to the notion that you have to spend money to make money. Audiences have flocked to movies that have cost hundreds of millions of dollars recently, which may well convince studios to loosen the purse strings. Smaller, lower budget movies have not made much money at the box office over the last year, bigger profits are coming from bigger investments.
Original Stories
Sequels, adaptations, remakes and reboots have been the big hitters in recent times, but Avatar may change that. It had previously been thought that completely new properties were incapable of drawing big box office, but Cameron has proved that wrong, along with other original movies last year like District 9, Inglourious Basterds and even 2012. If studios pick up the ball on this and develop more original projects, we will all benefit. Franchises will most likely still rule for the foreseeable future however. All the other movies that drew big last year were sequels and adaptations, and even Avatar looks set to become a franchise with rumours of Avatar 2 and 3 already doing the rounds.
Family Movies
Avatar was PG-13, which effectively meant anyone could go and see it, and it became very much a family friendly experience. There were arguably much fewer family oriented movies last year than in previous ones, with only really animated ones filling the void. The benefits for studios however are obvious. Your potential target audience is the biggest possible because it includes everyone. Each household can provide multiple viewers, even if the marketing only reaches one of them. And afterwards, word of mouth reaches schools, colleges and places of work. It can even benefit audiences by virtue of bringing families together for a joint experience.
Long Development Periods
Long development periods are nothing new, but there’s a big difference between a time consuming project and development hell. Cameron was probably busy the whole period, but will studios now follow his lead and finance marathon length production? Unlikely. Cameron got away with it, he was coming off of Titanic and was the boss. Funding came from several sources, and he didn’t have to answer to anyone. The major studios aren’t going to want to hand that kind of power to anyone, and if a long period of time goes by without any tangible progress, they’ll get nervous. Waiting a year or two for a return on investment is one thing, but paying out hundreds of millions with no bottom line in sight is not going to be a popular endeavour.
Joint Financing
Avatar has been said to have been financed from half a dozen sources. Will we see more deals of this type? I don’t know enough about these type of things to know the answer, but i do have a couple of thoughts. I don’t know if major studios will want to share a big budget movie with each other, i don’t know if it’ll be seen as a wise investment, and there’ll be issues over control and final cut. Also, with several investors, when it comes to dividing profits there’s likely to be less transparency over how much each party is due. Smaller companies may be more likely to part finance, but with the amounts of money involved it might be seen as too much of a risk.
Whatever your opinion of Avatar, love it or hate it, there’s no denying it is a cultural phenomenon, and a piece of movie history. However it affects the industry, and there’s no doubt it will, it will long be remembered as one of the most influential movies of all time.
January 9, 2010 · heyuguys.co.uk
Avatar has just a become the second highest grossing movie of all time. It’s inevitable it will break Titanic’s record, becoming the highest grossing movie of all time, and will have done so in an astonishingly short period. James Cameron’s movie has united almost the entire industry in praise, with scores of positive reviews. Historically, the big movies have had some kind of impact on the industry, and as one of the biggest, we can expect the ‘Avatar Effect’ to have a huge influence. But just what will that influence be?
3D
This will probably be the most immediate influence, as movies already in production can be converted to 3D. There have already been rumours of Robin Hood, Clash of the Titans and the Robocop reboot possibly going 3D, and with demand now being expected from the public for more, we can expect many such announcements. Previously much maligned, 3D is now being seen as the way forward, and that is thanks to the great work Cameron and his team have done with the technology.
Motion Capture
Poor Robert Zemeckis. He’s been trying to convince us that motion capture animation is the way forward for several years, but despite his best efforts we weren’t buying it. There was much criticism over ‘dead eyes’ in the characters, and the overall effect of the movies were uninspiring. Now in one fell swoop Avatar has made motion capture viable. The alien characters were truly stunning, full of life and completely believable. The locations in some cases were photorealistic, and the overall effect was breathtaking. Thanks to Cameron’s success with the Nav’vi, we can expect many more motion capture projects to be announced.
Big Bugets
Despite the current economic climate making studios reluctant to greenlight risky big budget productions, the success of Avatar and others like Transformers 2 last year has lent credence to the notion that you have to spend money to make money. Audiences have flocked to movies that have cost hundreds of millions of dollars recently, which may well convince studios to loosen the purse strings. Smaller, lower budget movies have not made much money at the box office over the last year, bigger profits are coming from bigger investments.
Original Stories
Sequels, adaptations, remakes and reboots have been the big hitters in recent times, but Avatar may change that. It had previously been thought that completely new properties were incapable of drawing big box office, but Cameron has proved that wrong, along with other original movies last year like District 9, Inglourious Basterds and even 2012. If studios pick up the ball on this and develop more original projects, we will all benefit. Franchises will most likely still rule for the foreseeable future however. All the other movies that drew big last year were sequels and adaptations, and even Avatar looks set to become a franchise with rumours of Avatar 2 and 3 already doing the rounds.
Family Movies
Avatar was PG-13, which effectively meant anyone could go and see it, and it became very much a family friendly experience. There were arguably much fewer family oriented movies last year than in previous ones, with only really animated ones filling the void. The benefits for studios however are obvious. Your potential target audience is the biggest possible because it includes everyone. Each household can provide multiple viewers, even if the marketing only reaches one of them. And afterwards, word of mouth reaches schools, colleges and places of work. It can even benefit audiences by virtue of bringing families together for a joint experience.
Long Development Periods
Long development periods are nothing new, but there’s a big difference between a time consuming project and development hell. Cameron was probably busy the whole period, but will studios now follow his lead and finance marathon length production? Unlikely. Cameron got away with it, he was coming off of Titanic and was the boss. Funding came from several sources, and he didn’t have to answer to anyone. The major studios aren’t going to want to hand that kind of power to anyone, and if a long period of time goes by without any tangible progress, they’ll get nervous. Waiting a year or two for a return on investment is one thing, but paying out hundreds of millions with no bottom line in sight is not going to be a popular endeavour.
Joint Financing
Avatar has been said to have been financed from half a dozen sources. Will we see more deals of this type? I don’t know enough about these type of things to know the answer, but i do have a couple of thoughts. I don’t know if major studios will want to share a big budget movie with each other, i don’t know if it’ll be seen as a wise investment, and there’ll be issues over control and final cut. Also, with several investors, when it comes to dividing profits there’s likely to be less transparency over how much each party is due. Smaller companies may be more likely to part finance, but with the amounts of money involved it might be seen as too much of a risk.
Whatever your opinion of Avatar, love it or hate it, there’s no denying it is a cultural phenomenon, and a piece of movie history. However it affects the industry, and there’s no doubt it will, it will long be remembered as one of the most influential movies of all time.
Bezüglich 3D wurde ja schon einiges gesagt, aber das Cameron jetzt Motion-Capturing zum Durchbruch verhilft is ja wohl etwas übertrieben, bei Peter Jackson und Gollum fing das Ganze doch an. Zu Original Storys, okay, da kann ich jetzt (noch) nicht mitreden, aber es wurde ja schon häufig erwähnt, dass es im Prinzip das selbe wie Der mit dem Wolf tanzt und/oder Pocahontas ist. Das PG-13 mehr Kohle bringt merkt man doch schon seit langen! Das war doch bei vielen Blockbustern in letzter Zeit so, z.B. Die Hard 4.0.
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